5. December 2023 20:32Everything else → ill be gifting a few ppl on th
5. December 2023 20:22Everything else → dutch people, sinterklaas??
5. December 2023 20:20Everything else → dutch people, sinterklaas??
girl take a look at history good luck trying to stop a war
im not saying we have to ignore it but why always focus on the bad
Because everyone deserves to enjoy a holiday just as much as any other person. And thats not the case right now, so we should acknowledge it and work our best to change it. And as long as people think their joy is more important than others, we have to keep working on it.
5. December 2023 20:11Everything else → dutch people, sinterklaas??
okay but do we always have to focus on them and give them the attention they want or can we also look on the bright side of life and stop crying
okay but do we always have to focus on the wars in the world and how to stop it from happening? Or can we also look on the bright side of life and stop crying
We should not stop lookng at awful stuff just because it isnt nice to look at. People are getting hurt in the process, we should try to stop it.
5. December 2023 20:02Everything else → dutch people, sinterklaas??
I really get that and that behaviour is not okay but maybe 1 out of 1000 does that, do we have to punish the other 999 people because of that one idiot? thats also ridiculous
I've seen more than enough racist behaviour towards or around black pete... i can say with confidence its really not a small amount of people
5. December 2023 19:44Everything else → dutch people, sinterklaas??
Olives and Lemons wrote:
It was one of the very few celebration I got to celebrate as a child that hadn't anything to do with my roots, and I enjoyed it until it felt off ever since I changed schools at the age of 8. There was a girl in my class who was black, and some of the remarks teachers and classmates would make towards her were so hurtful, I could literally see her bite through the pain and forcing a laugh. It was meant to be funny but clearly she couldn't laugh.
My heart hurts when I hear/read these kind of stories
5. December 2023 19:43Everything else → dutch people, sinterklaas??
well, it's a combination!
as for blackface, they paint their face black, wear bright red lipstick (also around their lips to make them look bigger), wear a "kroes" wig, wear golden hoops earrings and something about the collar (which I don't know the full story behind, maybe someone else does!)
The original story states that when you've been naughty/misbehaved, black pete will put you in his sack (they carry a sack for the presents) and they'll take you with them to Spain. That's where sinterklaas and his petes live during the rest of the year. They'd also hit you with "roe" (rod?) if you've been naughty.
As an addition to that, the petes are doing all the work for a white man.
When little kids hear the story about not behaving and black pete, they usually get quite scared of them. And when they're all black, they can associate it with a group of people, which are POC.
I hope that answers your question! Please note that I'm a white woman, so I'm priviliged in this situation and don't know everything into full detail! <3
Also black Pete’s costume has been linked to a certain type of slave in like the 1600’s or something? At least that’s what I read in an article,
5. December 2023 19:37Everything else → dutch people, sinterklaas??
You do realise that it's not actually the people demonstrating against black pete that are causing the disruptions? It's when people who are pro-black pete interfere that things go sideways, because they are the ones causing an uproar.
Not the other way around.
It’s generally known by now if one side shows up, the other one is soon to follow. No matter who ‘gets there first’. The little kids still believe in the magic, demonstrations around the intocht will only hurt and confuse and upset the kiddos there. They are NOT the ones who should have the effects
5. December 2023 19:31Everything else → dutch people, sinterklaas??
what do you mean
The whole black Pete discussion. I am personally against black Pete, I’ve seen too many darkskinned little kids upset. Because they were teased, bullied, ‘threatened’ around black Pete. With bad intentions. But I just hate the fact that innocent kids are caught in the middle of the discussions (literally)
5. December 2023 19:27Everything else → dutch people, sinterklaas??
well how else are you supposed to demonstrate then lol? there will always be kids cuz u know.. it's for kids........
Just go out in a field somewhere where’s no ‘sinterklaas intocht’ and fight it out over there. Not at the physical intocht!
5. December 2023 19:25Everything else → dutch people, sinterklaas??
I'm glad people are slowly realizing that the tradition can be changed. In a loottt of cities so called "black pete" is gone and is changed into rainbow or soot sweep pete!
However, in a lot of smaller villages they still celebrate sinterklaas with black pete as sinterklaas' helpers. I honestly find it disgusting how people can be this ignorant and luckily there's this activism group here in the netherlands called "KO zwarte piet", which means "kick out black pete".
I used to love it when I was little and people with small kids still celebrate sinterklaas, mostly without any racism involved. The little kids only care about the presents and the excitement, not about what color pete is.
I'm really really reallly hoping sinterklaas will stay a tradition for the kids, but without any racist aspects involved. And luckily, we're making steps towards it by spreading awareness about black pete :)
I feel so sad for the darkskinned little kids who have been called ‘black Pete’ or threatened to be taken to Spain because they are ‘black Pete’.
5. December 2023 19:21Everything else → dutch people, sinterklaas??
The debates and fights and discussions around it have ruined it completely for me. Especially the demonstrations around kids. No matter your opinion, you’re an a-hole to do that.
5. December 2023 19:15Everything else → kinda slay theres no sinterkla
I really couldn’t care less about Sinterklaas items in gsm to be fair
4. December 2023 21:19Friends and guestbooks → tag a sexy fucker
u sure are sexy
› Alter Ego
4. December 2023 20:16Style, fashion and beauty → quote the lookie
the layering is everything
4. December 2023 20:13Style, fashion and beauty → quote the lookie
How are all of you so beautiful
4. December 2023 20:12Style, fashion and beauty → quote the lookie
4. December 2023 19:32Everything else → Hoe hoe hoe
-Bubble dreams wrote:
love the bow nipple covers
who knew my nipples would be so popular
4. December 2023 19:31Everything else → Hoe hoe hoe
i love the tassels
why thank you
4. December 2023 19:29Everything else → Hoe hoe hoe
im screaming, the bows on the nipples
the bows actually inspired BOTH of my stripper looks