dunia wrote:
you ate

Berneice wrote:
girl take a look at history good luck trying to stop a war

im not saying we have to ignore it but why always focus on the bad

Berneice wrote:
okay but do we always have to focus on them and give them the attention they want or can we also look on the bright side of life and stop crying


amen

Berneice wrote:
I really get that and that behaviour is not okay but maybe 1 out of 1000 does that, do we have to punish the other 999 people because of that one idiot? thats also ridiculous

Olives and Lemons wrote:
It was one of the very few celebration I got to celebrate as a child that hadn't anything to do with my roots, and I enjoyed it until it felt off ever since I changed schools at the age of 8. There was a girl in my class who was black, and some of the remarks teachers and classmates would make towards her were so hurtful, I could literally see her bite through the pain and forcing a laugh. It was meant to be funny but clearly she couldn't laugh.

Imara wrote:
well, it's a combination!

as for blackface, they paint their face black, wear bright red lipstick (also around their lips to make them look bigger), wear a "kroes" wig, wear golden hoops earrings and something about the collar (which I don't know the full story behind, maybe someone else does!)

The original story states that when you've been naughty/misbehaved, black pete will put you in his sack (they carry a sack for the presents) and they'll take you with them to Spain. That's where sinterklaas and his petes live during the rest of the year. They'd also hit you with "roe" (rod?) if you've been naughty.

As an addition to that, the petes are doing all the work for a white man.

When little kids hear the story about not behaving and black pete, they usually get quite scared of them. And when they're all black, they can associate it with a group of people, which are POC.

I hope that answers your question! Please note that I'm a white woman, so I'm priviliged in this situation and don't know everything into full detail! <3

Euryale wrote:
You do realise that it's not actually the people demonstrating against black pete that are causing the disruptions? It's when people who are pro-black pete interfere that things go sideways, because they are the ones causing an uproar.

Not the other way around.

Dragonfly wrote:
what do you mean

Destroya wrote:
well how else are you supposed to demonstrate then lol? there will always be kids cuz u know.. it's for kids........

Imara wrote:
I'm glad people are slowly realizing that the tradition can be changed. In a loottt of cities so called "black pete" is gone and is changed into rainbow or soot sweep pete!

However, in a lot of smaller villages they still celebrate sinterklaas with black pete as sinterklaas' helpers. I honestly find it disgusting how people can be this ignorant and luckily there's this activism group here in the netherlands called "KO zwarte piet", which means "kick out black pete".

I used to love it when I was little and people with small kids still celebrate sinterklaas, mostly without any racism involved. The little kids only care about the presents and the excitement, not about what color pete is.

I'm really really reallly hoping sinterklaas will stay a tradition for the kids, but without any racist aspects involved. And luckily, we're making steps towards it by spreading awareness about black pete :)

Kegle wrote:
big slay

Squilia wrote:
you're hot

-Bubble dreams wrote:
love the bow nipple covers

Nightwing wrote:
i love the tassels

Stine1501 wrote:
im screaming, the bows on the nipples