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what is it w white ppl immediately thinking its their place to defend racist comments
elk wrote:
what is it w white ppl immediately thinking its their place to defend racist comments
Or talking over us…
Canstamey wrote:
Or talking over us…
but these comments abt chinese ppl aren't offensive to me as a white person so i don't see why everyone is making drama !!!!!!!! /s
elk wrote:
but these comments abt chinese ppl aren't offensive to me as a white person so i don't see why everyone is making drama !!!!!!!! /s
Canstamey wrote:
I can only speak up for myself, so if any Asians would like to add something, please feel free.

It is getting tiring to always fight but racism is such an important topic to fight since not only do we deal with this in real life on a daily basis, it also happens on here. Not only Asians, but POC in general.

No one knows how we truly feel except those who have been in such racist situations before. Even though the post is from 2017, I got triggered reading it. Most of you won't ever encounter such racist situations like I dealt/have to deal with or won't experience it at all. 6 years or not, those comments from different screenshots are highly offensive and digusting.

If you are appointed as an Admin on a website, where trust & safety should be #1, taking care of the minority groups (also considering the fact an inclusivity group would be online) this is definitely not a good signal at all. Sure, people can change and I am still waiting for HER statement about her behaviour a couple of years ago. Also waiting on how the investigations ended.

But simply saying "it happened 6 years ago" or "people can change" is so insensitive and too easy to say for those who have to deal with this and to relive certain situations from the past.

Don't come and say how we should feel.

killtherainbows: "And quite frankly, it doesn't sit right with me to have an Admin who said that kind of shit in the past (regardless if they've changed) on a site targeted to KIDS that's already had a lot of issues with racism not being handled properly."

failure: "And while people CAN change, it doesn't make things suddenly right. Like that was fucking hurtful and they should be held accountable. It was not right back then and it's not right now. Racism is always awful and things that happened a while ago can still hurt people today.+ even if there is an apology, it's not up to us white people to declare things are okay suddenly. Only those affected can decide if they are willing to forgive and if they are able to trust this person again."


*edited due to typos.
** Read the thread about dealing with racism from my POV
https://gosupermodel.com/community/forum_thread.jsp?id=1023191
Thank you!
I can totally understand you with everything u writing here and in ur other thread!
Everyday i'm going out with my kids, the people always have to say something.
During covid, it was the hardest. - the comments from the people and the disgusted glances..
So much harder if you have kids and they don't understand why people say something like that and always looking at us
„ But simply saying "it happened 6 years ago" or "people can change" is so insensitive and too easy to say for those who have to deal with this and to relive certain situations from the past. “

No - not by simply saying.
Learning is a life long process and we get mostly influenced by our surroundings. Within these 6 years can happen a LOT and optimistically saying what I would find respectful to do is to acknowledge the mistake. It has been said, it cannot been undone. BUT in these 6 years a person can evolve further, learn new perspectives, learn more about why this was not okay to say and that the view of people of people on this world has been changed.
It cant be done by „simply saying“ a phrase like that. At least elaborate what you have learned? Or why you know its a amistake

(I hope I am making sense, am a little sick so english is hard rn lmao)

If I was in this position I would have stood up right up front. I personally do not remember every single thing thing I wrote or said 6 years again (also bad example because I barely know anything before 2019 due to trauma) but maybe there was! I do remember that once I laughed at jokes that I find incredibly inappropriate and where I am the one now telling people this is not okay because xyz. I would have stand have right away, acknowledged my mistake and tried sharing my way of development as best as I could.
I am sad and find it meh that I have not read ANYTHING in collenction to this by the user in question.
(hope it makes sense 8 can also try to rephrase or elaborate if needed)
fragolata wrote:
„ But simply saying "it happened 6 years ago" or "people can change" is so insensitive and too easy to say for those who have to deal with this and to relive certain situations from the past. “

No - not by simply saying.
Learning is a life long process and we get mostly influenced by our surroundings. Within these 6 years can happen a LOT and optimistically saying what I would find respectful to do is to acknowledge the mistake. It has been said, it cannot been undone. BUT in these 6 years a person can evolve further, learn new perspectives, learn more about why this was not okay to say and that the view of people of people on this world has been changed.
It cant be done by „simply saying“ a phrase like that. At least elaborate what you have learned? Or why you know its a amistake

(I hope I am making sense, am a little sick so english is hard rn lmao)

If I was in this position I would have stood up right up front. I personally do not remember every single thing thing I wrote or said 6 years again (also bad example because I barely know anything before 2019 due to trauma) but maybe there was! I do remember that once I laughed at jokes that I find incredibly inappropriate and where I am the one now telling people this is not okay because xyz. I would have stand have right away, acknowledged my mistake and tried sharing my way of development as best as I could.
I am sad and find it meh that I have not read ANYTHING in collenction to this by the user in question.
(hope it makes sense 8 can also try to rephrase or elaborate if needed)
People reading these comments, like me, are hurt today. Because even though it’s a comment from years ago you can still hurt people. I am not sure whether you agree with what I wrote or not but I want a statement from HER.
canstamey
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